“My humanity is caught up in yours.” – Teach Different with Archbishop Desmond Tutu

Transcript

Teach Different (00:00)

Desmond Tutu is our quote, fellas. So who is Desmond Tutu? Bishop, South Africa, theologian. Okay, this guy was famous. He lived really probably 90 years old. And he was like the first Archbishop of Cape Town in South Africa, in I guess, 86 to 96. And he was kind of a trailblazer. People looked up to him because of the apartheid, right? The racist regime of South Africa. You’ve got Nelson Mandela, you’ve got Tutu, you’ve got people fighting this. And here’s a guy that came out and he was a religious person and he comes up with this quote and here’s the quote. I’m going to read it two times. We’re going to talk about it. This quote is short, but we’re going to spend some time with the claim because the claim is, there’s five different ways to look at it. Probably even more. And I want to hear what everybody has to say. Here’s the quote. My humanity is caught up in yours. My humanity is caught up in yours. Who’s got a thought? What’s the claim? What’s he saying?

 

Bully (01:25)

Our actions don’t only affect us, it affects the people around us. Because you can like, like say for Chicago, like a lot of people pitch in like with these organizations, like with all who got funders from the suburbs, from up north, from downtown, from the Gold Coast, and they invest because they feel like they not the one perpetrating the violence, or they’re not the one doing it, but they can feel the wrath of it, and they feel it is affecting them. And it still affects us as a whole city. It drives like, how the violence has driven plenty businesses away with all the smash and grabs and all that and everything. Like a lot of businesses leaving Chicago or whatever. And then it’s like at the same tim, I can be going to my house everyday chilling, just picking my man up, go to work, come home. And you can be outside killing people, shooting people, robbing people, doing it everyday, but we still living in the same humanity. It’s still the same room, I’m still a part of this. So if I’m sitting there not doing nothing or doing nothing about it, I don’t care, it’s only a matter of time before it gets to me. So we all still in the same humanity.

 

Teach Different (02:25)

Yeah, we can pretend like we live on an island, but we don’t. I’ve got a Martin Luther King quote that I’m going to bring out at some point, but he said the same type of thing. Tr33, what are some other thoughts on this? My humanity is caught up in yours.

 

Tree (02:47)

I feel like a part of being human is like the ecosystem of us all living together.

 

Teach Different (02:57)

Ecosystem.

 

Tree (02:59)

Yeah, like humanity, to me is, humanity is like the ecosystem of human beings living amongst each other. Like, I feel like if it were, if there were no other humans, if it was just one human being, right, on planet with animals, you wouldn’t have humanity because it’s like you the only human. So there’s nothing other, there’s no other human that you can connect to in an empathetic way to flourish some form of society and nurturing of existence amongst each other. You existing with animals, you coexisting with animals. You can’t connect to them on no human level, because they ain’t humans. So humanity comes from it being a plethora of humans that all have to exist amongst each other and socialize and connect with one another. And we connect to each other through being human. So my humanity is caught up in your humanity because we both human beings experiencing a reality. So it’s like, I gotta care about how the fuck you feel and what your experience is. You gotta care about my experience and my perception of this shit. And we gotta meet somewhere in the middle because I can’t overstep on you and you can’t overstep on me. And that’s why we at what we at as a race, as a human race, because we trying to overstep each other and shit versus having… 

 

Teach Different (04:24)

What do you mean by overstep?

 

Tree (04:27)

Like. Greed, for instance, it’s like instead of it just being things as an option for people to have, you have to pay for it. So now we’ve created poor, we’ve created the concept of poverty because we stepping over each other on the aspect of resources. Instead of us sharing the resources in the fucking, excuse my language, instead of us sharing the resources in the wealth of the planet, people are taking control over it and they don’t have humanity in them. Because how could you have humanity if you see somebody hungry and starving and you don’t feel like they deserve to eat?

 

Teach Different (05:11)

Okay, now you’re inferring that with humanity and I feel it. It’s like, if you know you’re a human and someone else is a human, it’s almost like it already instructs you. It’s obvious that you’re gonna feel a certain way. Jarvis, step in here. What do you think? What’s your take on the claim?

 

Jarvis funches (05:32)

Just to piggyback off of Bully and Tree, it’s pretty much what they was kinda saying, but I’m just putting in my own words. Like, for instance, when you do see people, and like Tree say, like, we kinda try to step over people. What he mean in those words is like, what happened to the reach one teach one? We don’t do that no more. We kinda make, we force people to buy knowledge. Knowledge that we really supposed to share amongst each other for all of us to be able to eat the fruit, you know that, and benefit. But instead, one person may know how to do something like real estate or own a business. And you know how to do this, but instead of you teaching me how to do it, you rather step over me. You rather watch me go through trials and tribulations. You rather watch me fail. You rather watch me do that because it’s not only that you don’t want to share the knowledge, you feel competition. You feel me going farther than you. And I’m not even thinking that at the time. I’m just looking for a handout. know what I’m saying? And vice versa, like Tree was saying. You know what I’m saying? When you walk past and you see people in life that’s just doing better than you or worse than you, your humanity kind of clicks in. When you got a heart, like for people that got a heart, yeah, your humanity kicks in like, damn, what if that was me? Let me help this person, because I understand how it feels to have that shoe on you. And I feel like a lot of people got to go through, well, you don’t have to go through anything. You just got to learn how to love people and learn how to try to see other people’s points of views instead of forcing your point of view.

 

Bully (06:40)

Yeah.

 

Teach Different (06:44)

Empathy.

 

Jarvis funches (06:59)

You know what I’m saying? And I feel like that’s where humanity comes in. That once you learn how to see other people point of view, because to be honest, there’s no right or wrong. It’s just a point of view of how somebody is thinking. And we kind of put the right or wrong going on because we feel that our opinion is better than your opinion, which is not even true. So it kind of messes up our humanity of living with each other because everybody thinks they better and we really not. We all the same.

 

Teach Different (07:05)

Ooh, yeah. Judging. So I’m hearing judging from you, Jarvis, and then we got the empathy, the lack thereof, and kind of the competition. Well, you were nodding. What were you thinking, Bully?

 

Bully (07:39)

I was thinking like piggyback like off what Jarvis was saying like it’s like even though we all in the vision, but we all in the same humanity and what we do affects everybody cuz like they say fish are like the the teen trees  Everybody go downtown, they go crazy, they ride and pose the car. So now it’s a curfew for all people under 18, but even the people who wasn’t doing it still got a curfew now. You might just want to come out and walk with your girl downtown. You never come out, but now you got a curfew now because the actions of other, somebody you never knew. Say if it’s like when we in the county, we in the county. Me and Tr33 had to fight, but then they locked the whole deck down. Now can’t nobody go out. Can’t nobody go to the commissary. Can’t nobody go to yard just off two people. like, so we all, regardless of where we’re from, we all gotta deal with the same infrastructure and powers that be. What we do affects each other.

 

Teach Different (08:29)

That’s the laws, right? That’s the whole idea of the laws. Well, I want to get to the counterclaim, but I have to share this just because… Yeah, go.

 

Tree (08:42)

There’s also to like almost embedded in like black urban culture, and the aspect of lights, how we seen in society, how we always talk to like, don’t make black people look bad. What you do, flexion on all of us. And they do do that, like, society tend to do that, We do that to each other as a society. But minorities that happen to us more often, like something happens and now every black person is this thing. We all are this, every Hispanic person is this way because this one person’s act as a human being and the other human beings judging of that act, they now casting that judgment onto a whole group because they see we all… 

 

Teach Different (09:30)

They generalize

 

Bully (09:31)

That’s what I was trying to say. That’s what I was getting at right there. He hit on the head.

 

Teach Different (09:34)

Yeah, yeah. And it’s like you can’t do anything about it. You’re going to get an opinion on you that you don’t necessarily deserve because of the way you look, because people do see people as a whole. I wanna do a counterclaim, but first I gotta say this. I don’t know why, but the last few years I have been confused as to why gold is so valuable. And then when I ask people that, they say, well, it’s rare. I’m like, okay, so there’s not much of it. Why is it valuable? And they’re like,

 

Jarvis funches (10:26)

It’s valuable because of the scarcity. It’s hard to get. It’s not common.

 

Teach Different (10:29)

Okay, thank you. Economic scarcity, not everybody can have it. People compete for it. But here’s my, go ahead, Tree, what are you thinking?

 

Tree (10:35)

And it’s you, also gold use gold as a conductor. Gold is used and is valuable. It’s worth as a natural resource. It’s worth as a natural resource and it’s used like it’s gold in computers. In the smallest part of computers, they need gold to make certain like it’s gold is needed for real.

 

Teach Different (10:44)

It’s got use. Okay. That makes more sense if you’re talking utility. I’m just thinking of like gold necklace, gold chain, gold, gold, gold, gold, gold, and here’s my confusion. And I’m not gonna answer this now, but, why is it that scarce things are worth the most? It seems like abundant things should be worth the most, like oxygen. Like if we didn’t have oxygen, that’s the most abundant thing in the world, but if we didn’t have it, we wouldn’t be alive to get gold, but oxygen is free. So I’m trying to, I’m literally, I don’t know if I’m going crazy, you know, straighten me out.

 

Jarvis funches (11:52)

No, you’re not going crazy. What you’re pinpointing is things that we talked about last time of human beings taking things for granted. What’s free, we use, we look at it as common. Imagine hypothetically for everybody that’s listening, imagine hypothetically we could just walk out into the yard and get a vehicle. Do you think you would cherish your vehicle how you cherish it now? No, because you feel that I can get more whenever I want to. And that’s the thing. That’s the difference between gold and people that’s in and unique things. You just can’t get unique things when you want to. It’s scarcity. It comes around once a time. So when you get it, you got to take care of it. That’s why everybody tries to do that. But at the same time, it’s like the real things that you need to live, you take for granted. Like your humanity, like your life, like, like bonding with other people, like actually cherishing people, actually loving people, like actually trying to help people. doing what you said you was gonna do. People really taking that for granted even waking up in the morning people don’t even say thank you to God just for waking them up in the morning they just go straight to complaining. Ah I got this again but what about the people that ain’t get the chance to wake up this morning they dead they wishing they had that little light bill problem they wish they could wake up to that little light bill problem Jesus you know I’m saying it’s about what you like I said earlier your point of view there is no right or wrong in this world and once everybody understand that there is no right or wrong just like it’s just hard to say that like there is no right or wrong this is something that we have been trained to think just like a robber a robber is not trying out a 10 he’s stealing or robbing to take care of his family the police are either chasing him for one or two options either lock him up for the crime and because they get paid to do it which one wrong neither is wrong neither because they both have valid points. They just coming from different points of views. We as humanity put the right and wrong on labels when there actually is no right or wrong. And we take everything that we are given for free for granted. That’s why we overlook breathing. That’s why we overlook our little things that we have in life because we take everything for granted. Human being nature is just they just want more, more, more, more, more. I don’t understand that.

 

Teach Different (14:00)

Yep. There you go. There you go. Taking for granted. There you go. And then that can compromise our humanity. The more, the more, the competition. The minute you take stuff for granted, you don’t appreciate what you have, you’re running into trouble and you’re going to be trouble for a bunch of people probably. So that was helpful actually. That’s a good way to look at it. Let’s do this right now. Yeah.

 

Jarvis funches (14:25)

Yeah.

 

Tree (14:25)

Okay. And I look, let me add one thing, I think also, like you said, why is scarcity, why is scarce thing so valuable? I think that go into like human psyche about the like greed of the human mind and the feeling of like ownership and just having. So it’s like, ⁓ there’s only a little bit of this thing that exists, but I have it. I got it though, so I’m somehow very important. Now I’m somehow rare or important. I have a lot of this thing and it’s not even a lot of it. Now I can dispense it to others. Now it’s even more valuable that I have it. So now that I have it and I can dispense it to people, now I can make it the value of it. Like if it’s only six apples left in the world and I own all those six apples, I can say them six apples cost however much I want them to cost. Cause they’re the last six apples on earth and you so thirsty to get an apple, you’re gonna give me whatever for it. So, and now if I can be the one that own the last six apples, so that’s why it’s like, yeah bro, human greed makes something that’s scarce and a little bit of it seem like it’s a big deal.

 

Teach Different (15:52)

I got it. i’ve got to share this real quickly. It’s going to be so quick. Philosopher Greek philosopher. mean, 600 BC. The name is escaping me. It’ll probably come to me sometime. There was a drought. All the farmers had equipment to till the field and do what they needed to do to have their harvest. And during the drought he went to every farmer and said, hey, I’ll buy your equipment from you. and he gave him pennies on the dollar, like cheap. And they’re just like, we don’t have any use for this equipment. There’s a drought. So I’ll take this a hundred bucks or whatever it was. Next season, the rains came back. And he’s got everyone’s equipment. And he’s just like, do you want this back? And because he was a philosopher, he ended up like giving it back at cost. He just wanted to prove something. I don’t know what I’m going to go find that story, but he didn’t, he didn’t gouge him, but think about what he could have charged. Anyway, same idea, right? Scarcity. Let’s do a counterclaim. Okay. We’re going to push against this. We’re going to disagree with this, even if we, we agree because we haven’t talked about, you know, there are some people in this world who I think you could make the argument they’ve lost their humanity. And the question is, how do you deal with people who, you know, you’re in conflict with or are threatening you and You’re supposed to sit back and go, well, my humanity is caught up in yours. But what does that mean practically? If someone push against this, how do you look at people that, I guess my essential question is, how do we look at people who seem evil and we’re in conflict with? How do we deal with that?

 

Bully (18:13)

That’s the nature of the trenches. It’s like kill or be killed. A lot of people was forced into the life. You got cool people. Like I always say, you got two types of people in the rural. You got people that come outside. People might get a hold to a gun and then they be like, bitch, if it was you, I wish a motherfucker would. I got the juice now. And then you got other people that know what humanity is like and what’s going on in the world So they have to protect themselves. So they might grab a gun and they tell theyself. I pray nobody don’t make me kill him. I pray I don’t have any trouble with these other. But I got this to protect myself, you know what I’m saying? I’m going to protect myself at all costs, but I don’t want to use this gun. Then you got some people who get the gun and they don’t want to use it. Say for instance, like our president, he got the power so he just want to use it. A lot of this stuff I think he doing, he just like a big ass kid with exposed to brand new toys. He’s like, let’s just go bomb here. Let’s just go bomb there and just go bomb there. And let’s just go do this just because he can. Just because he privileged, just because he can. Because he don’t know what it’s like for the other half of the bottom that when you bombing them countries, it’s 300 kids down there too. It’s 300 mothers down there too. All the innocent people in casualties are building. People have to live there. This is where people stay at that they had nothing to do with it, but they was a casualty of what? Their humanity.

 

Teach Different (19:30)

He’s not empathizing. And it’s funny, he said destroy their civilization in one of his tweets, right? You guys heard that like.

 

Bully (19:32)

Mm-hmm. Yeah, like so how could you even think like who are you to think that you can tell somebody human civilization like you got to be really messed up in the head and think And think like you above everybody in the world like who you think you are to say you go destroy somebody civilization like

 

Teach Different (19:53)

It’s a lot, man. Tr33, what are you thinking?

 

Tree (19:57)

counterclaim so we really consciousness though we consciousness that is moving human vessels so in that case it’s like is humanity a part of the illusion of what this whole thing is of being a human or this experience so in that case I don’t have to do for you what I need to be focusing on my individual self and just flourishing and living and whatever you’re doing is whatever you’re doing. 

 

Bully (20:41)

That’s like an old saying where it goes back like, your business, man your business. If it don’t concern you, stay out of it. We learned that a lot in the streets. Stay out of shit that don’t involve you, that don’t have nothing to do with you, even though it’s around you, that ain’t your business. A lot of people stay out of shit. I be like that a lot. People be asking me, what you think about this? I don’t got nothing to say about the subject, because I don’t know what made him do this. I don’t know what made him do this. Only them can tell you why this happened. My opinion really don’t matter, because I don’t know the whole… I don’t know the whole equality, I don’t know the whole equation of the story.

 

Tree (21:13)

Look, look at this. Look at this right here. So I watched the video the other day. It was a, it was a turtle. It was a dude outside exploring and he was exploring and he came across a turtle flipped over on his back and a bunch of vultures around it waiting for it to die. So against what he said was his better judgment because he said he normally don’t interfere in nature, but he threw a little rock, made the birds get away and flipped the turtle over. And it was a debate in comments, like some of them were saying he shouldn’t have did, he should let nature play his course. So I was gonna say that. I hear that a lot though, in like animal videos where nature happening. Humans don’t be wanting to get involved. You are watching a predator destroy a prey. You watching this small rabbit get chased by five foxes. defenseless and all they got is this guy giving speed other than that he can’t bite him back he can’t you have a gun you have whatever you can help but you feel like no this ain’t no that’s that’s hey that’s nature it just has to happen that little rabbit is lunch today ha ha ha but

 

Teach Different (22:30)

So why isn’t it the same with humans? Am I following your logic? Why are we so worried about like saving each other, protecting each other, empathizing? This is survival of the fittest, baby. Like what, we’re all here for a reason. We’re survivors, you know? And I’m gonna mind my own business.

 

Tree (22:34)

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that’s weird too, because there’s certain people in the world that are certain people. is certain people. I’m not going to even talk about who they are and the ethnic origins, but it’s people that walk the planet Earth that care more about a dog than a human being. So it’s like, is your… 

 

Teach Different (23:11)

I think they live in downtown Chicago.

 

Tree (23:17)

Bro, I seen them do stuff for police dogs that they didn’t even think to do.

 

Teach Different (23:25)

I, it’s, I don’t know. It’s, I’m, I’m liking the mind your own business though. I mean, if we want to like talk about like a something you could live with that it’s hard to argue that minding your own business is bad advice. You know,

 

Tree (23:42)

Right, then I too, I ain’t speak on the other part where you say, how do you do it when it’s somebody that you were like enemies with or something like that, you was saying?

 

Teach Different (23:51)

yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Conflict. Like if somebody, think of someone you have hated or you hate now. Are you thinking about their humanity and how caught up it is in yours?

 

Tree (24:08)

Sometimes, me personally as a human being, as the man I’ve grown to be now to this day and age, yeah, I see everything from like a, or at least I try my hardest to see everything from a 360 perspective. Like, okay, what was my role and what is your role? Because you ain’t finna trick me out of my spot. Like, before I crash out on you, I need to see like, what’s really even the cause of you tripping on me?

 

Tree (24:35)

Like I do like it is is so many things like mental health. It’s like I’m not fit to crash out over somebody that got mental health problems. And if you from me and that you got mental health problems really and you like irrational thinking and I’m supposed to think on your level and move how you move in this on this chessboard. No, no, no, no, no.

 

Bully (24:43)

Right. And it’s fucked up. Humanity got so bad, we just got so disrespectful. It’s like people be happy when bad things happen to people they hate. Like back in the day, I wouldn’t wish jail on my worst enemy. But if somebody died with still respect, I ain’t fucked with him, but it’s respectful. But now it’s like, I’m smoking on your dead, homie. Tell your dead homie, up. Now it’s just got so humanity, it’s got so out of control. like people don’t have no, it’s like people be happy when somebody in a tour get locked up or happy when somebody in a tour get hurt or happy when they celebrate death and mock death and take it for a joke to how far humanity done got. It’s crazy out here.

 

Teach Different (25:34)

That seems like too much.

 

Tree (25:37)

Nah, that’s really happening. Like, they were really talking about your dead love. I said it in the song. I said, I’m hurting so I searched from the heart my purpose yet uncertain I was birthed with the sharks and vultures My city it was cursed from the start our culture is lifting toasters and leaving marks Your ghost us don’t even got to know who you are they’ll smoke you and then roll you up in the cigar and joke like that ain’t leaving your family scarred. They’ll smoke you and they’ll kill you and then rap about it and talk about it and make jokes about it like your family don’t grieve in you right now.

 

Bully (26:17)

Like, their grandma ain’t got nothing to do with their street stuff. Their auntie ain’t got nothing to do with it. Their little baby girl don’t got nothing to do with it, but they gotta hear this and see this. You not hurting them, they dead. You hurting people that don’t have nothing to do with it. It’s just part of humanity.

 

Teach Different (26:29)

That’s the thought that goes into it, that they’re just not registering, you know.

 

Bully (26:33)

He dead, he don’t feel he dead. His mama feel that, his grandma feel that.

 

Tree (26:38)

That went as far as the subpoena on graves. They went further to mocking funeral pictures. That’s the first time I ever saw this, the boy Lil Jojo, they hit his picture in his casket, going viral on the internet of him in the casket and his enemies was talking about it. I’m like, wow, yo, tripping. This was like 2012, 2011.

 

Teach Different (27:01)

I mean, there, so in other words, there’s counterclaims all over the place to this. My humanity is caught up in yours. I mean, some people don’t even.

 

Tree (27:11)

In a utopia, in a utopia it is. In the real world, no. It’s everybody, it’s like a, it’s like a, it’s a fight for that. Right now it’s an imbalance of that. It’s like half the world is trying to be one and we all trying to unify and make a utopia for people for the next generation and demolish the government, abolish police, all these different things. A lot of people waking up and trying to heal the world, but then on the other end it’s people still in survival mode and it’s people that’s above those people in survival mode constantly creating the circumstances for them to be in survival mode and make money off it. And the people in survival mode still ain’t look up yet and saw, wait, you making my life like this. So they still just go while we trying to tell it as, hey, look, you don’t gotta be doing this. It’s somebody up there making it all of us.

 

Bully (27:49)

Mm-hmm. And listen. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That’s what I be. And we taught that. And when they taught teach you that, young man, your business. You ain’t got nothing to do with that. Don’t go over that bottom of them people. Stay away from them people. Like when I was younger, my grandma told me to stay away from white people because she’s from the down south. She grew up in Mississippi, deep down in Mississippi. She’s like, fool with no white women. Stay away from them. She was just scared to death to even interact with white people for some what she went through. But then when I got older now that I worked for the Institute of Nonviolence. Our first step in our lives is nonviolence is for courageous people. So now if I see some people fight, my kids, my kids hated all the time, because it’s so crazy how my life flipped without change, like how they used to call me like, dad, I got into a, what’s your, so I grabbed my gun, I’m calling, got some of that, man, you said something to my daughter, you did something to my son, now we’re out the bed. Now when everybody had a conference, they hate to see me coming, because they know I’m finna, I’m finna start mediating the situation. Like I’m finna go over there. My kids, I do a totally 180 on them. They be mad as hell. think I’m a bully finna come to square every bump I come like, um, now what happened? What was going on? Like, what they like? That ain’t what we call you over here to do. I’m like, I just see life different now. Like Trees said, y’all not finna see me back in jail over no kiddie bullshit. Cause I know the severity of this shit. I know every action has a reaction. This is the smallest thing. We can stop it before somebody gets shot, hurt, or bleed, then we got a better chance to stop it before somebody gets touched, physically hurt, or harmed. So the main thing is the niggas in the gate. like, back in the day, you’d be like, man, yo ain’t got nothing to do with that. If I see any of y’all niggas getting too, I’ma get involved and I’ma try to meet it. I’ma be careful. I ain’t just sitting there walking up and crazy, but I’ma try to ease in. Like, man, you okay? What’s going on, baby? Y’all think y’all can handle this? I’ma work my way in and start mediating with him. Because once again, nonviolence is for courageous people.

 

Tree (29:53)

Man, yeah, well you’re wise enough, man. You could talk out of anything, bro. Intellect, intellect, intellect beats, I feel like intellect beats rage, anytime.

 

Teach Different (30:03)

Yeah. That’s the truth.

 

Bully (30:05)

I used to be the one they love to call for beef when they into it. Now they hate to see me coming. They go like, here you come with this Martin Luther King shit.

 

Teach Different (30:12)

Speaking of, here’s this quote, I’m going to butcher it a little bit, but we’re all caught in an inescapable network of mutuality tied in a single garment of destiny. What affects all others directly affects all others indirectly. For some strange reason, I can never be what I ought to be until you are what you ought to be. The rich man can never be what he ought to be until the poor man is what he ought to be. Something like that. Like everything is connected.

 

Bully (30:52)

Everything is all because we all in the same room.

 

Teach Different (30:55)

Yeah, what’s a rich person if there’s no poor person?

 

Bully (30:58)

They don’t have no workers. They don’t have no people building the cars they driving. They have no people building the homes they living in. They don’t have no people making the food and growing the food and cooking the food. Like flying the planes, driving the planes, making the planes. It’s like everybody need everybody at the end of the day.

 

Tree (31:16)

It’s only rich because there’s poor. It’s only poor because it’s rich because…

 

Bully (31:21)

Right, well

 

Teach Different (31:21)

There you go.

 

Bully (31:23)

If everybody was rich, they wouldn’t be even rich.

 

Tree (31:26)

Because it’s like we created a system of the value of things. So it’s like, yeah.

 

Teach Different (31:34)

Don’t get me going again on my gold stuff. Oxygen is free. Of course, if someone could control it, they would control it, right? They’d be selling it.

 

Bully (31:46)

We had to pay the breeze. I know they wish they could do it. I know they’re somewhere, somewhere they probably, I wouldn’t be surprised. Cause I was like, I was shocked. I remember back in the day when I first seen a bottle of water in the store, like they make one for about water now. You’ve been when it first came out, Steve, like with their first , Tree, you probably don’t remember you were a little younger. Like water, I just thought it was crazy. Like I had never seen no water, water free. But now we can’t live without it. See, I understand.

 

Teach Different (31:51)

Bully, you know they would!

 

Tree (31:51)

They look, hey, they are.

 

Teach Different (32:02)

Yeah. I thought it was crazy.

 

Bully (32:13)

But that first season of Stormloft, it to be a pop-up, pop-up, pop-up, I can just drink it. It looked crazy. It looked crazy, man. But now every household got bottled waters.

 

Teach Different (32:17)

And it’s about the same amount. It’s, Tree, what were you gonna say? I just had one. Tree, what were you gonna say?

 

Tree (32:30)

He just threw me out with the battle of water.

 

Teach Different (32:32)

I am sorry.

 

Bully (32:32)

I’m telling you, looked the craziest here. The first time I went to the store, I seen water for sale. That shit looked crazy, man.

 

Teach Different (32:37)

I really don’t get it.

 

Tree (32:40)

What we were talking about before the waters.

 

Teach Different (32:44)

Well, cause water, guess is right next to oxygen for abundance.

 

Tree (32:47)

Right, right.

 

Tree (32:49)

Hospitals. Oxygen ain’t free at hospitals.

 

Bully (32:53)

Then you gotta pay to be on the breathing machine, right?

 

Teach Different (32:53)

Yeah.

 

Tree (32:54)

I just don’t feel it. Yeah, if you need help breathing, that’s gonna be getting ran up on a bill. They not finna just help you breathe.

 

Teach Different (32:58)

That’s a good point. Tree, that’s so crazy because… Tree, listen.

 

Tree (33:06)

Society will let you die if you don’t have insurance and you can’t breathe.

 

Teach Different (33:13)

My mom, my mom has an oxygen, you know, like tank up there. I’m just like, that thing is $4,000. You got to charge it. You’re right though. It’s not free.

 

Tree (33:19)

That’s $4,000?

 

Teach Different (33:31)

It’s portable, like, you charge it.

 

Tree (33:33)

To get help as a, if I’m saying so as a elderly human woman, she has to pay $4,000 to get help to breathe.

 

Teach Different (33:42)

And then hope insurance will help. It’s ridiculous.

 

Tree (33:47)

It’s not even free to breathe! We don’t even see that yet!

 

Teach Different (33:53)

It’s just…

 

Tree (33:54)

Because people ain’t complaining about that enough yet. I only hear about, are we paying to live? Why are we paying to eat? Stuff like that. Why are we paying to go to school? No one’s talking about the elderly who need, or the people who have breathing problems, or people who are in the hospital, or people who have had near-death experiences that are now in comas, whatever. The medical side of it, like, hospital really ain’t free. We think it’s free because we don’t have breathing problems. Somebody that got…

 

Teach Different (34:05)

Yeah. Yeah. That’s exactly it.

 

Tree (34:24)

Somebody got asthma, these COPD, all these different bronchitis, all these different breathing condition problems. They gotta pay for medications that help them breathe better. The world doesn’t say, wait, okay, you have this breathing problem? Well, here’s free oxygen. No, your way better have $4,000. That’s…

 

Teach Different (34:33)

Yeah, right, Yeah, there’s nothing for free.

 

Tree (34:49)

Bro, that’s diabolical, bro.