“All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” – Teach Different with Blaise Pascal
This week’s episode explores the impact of social media and technology on youth mental health, attention span, and human connection. Through a deep dive into a quote by French philosopher Blaise Pascal and insights from guests, Jarvis, Tr33, and Bully, we examine how being alone and digital connectivity shape our lives.
Chapters:
00:00 – The Value of Solitude and Reflection
09:20 – Exploring Solutions for Humanity
09:53 – The Impact of Social Media on Youth
12:18 – The Dual Nature of Technology
15:43 – Attention Span and Connection
18:46 – AI’s Role in Human Interaction
20:19 – The Counterclaim: Is Connection Always Good?
31:53 – Defining True Aloneness
35:44 – The Creator’s Perspective on Technology
Image Source: Gérard Edelinck, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons
Transcript
Steve Fouts (00:00)
Welcome to the Teach Different podcast. What is it? Wednesday, March 4th. We’re, I guess, hoping for spring, but we’re doing our weekly thing here and I got my favorite guests. I got Jarvis and Bully with me. We might have Tr33 joining us soon. We’ve got a quote obviously this week and I’ve also got a little bit different of an approach I’m going to experiment with that we’re going to be guinea pigs with for today. And here’s the approach. We’re going to take a current topic, okay, something controversial, you know, a little bit controversial. There’s lots, right? And we’re going to find a quote, we’re going to read a quote and we’re going to talk about a quote and soft land a good conversation about a controversial topic. And we’re going to do this to show people that you can have conversations about really difficult subjects. If you do it the right way, if you’ve got a framework, like don’t launch in and start in with your opinions. Okay. We’re going to take a quote and we’re going to model this method that we always use. So that’s the different thing we’re going to be doing. And it’s not that different. So I’m gonna just start us off with the topic first. And I want you to think about this. I’d like us to talk about youth mental health, specifically phones and social media. And the controversy is that a lot of people think that this social media is rotting these kids, and it’s holding them back from being able to socialize with people. It’s getting them too isolated and that it should be regulated because it’s hurting their mental health. Okay. This is the argument that people make. And then, you know, there’s another side to that, right? And it’s also creating some opportunities, right? For anybody who wants to have a phone and is creative and wants, you know, a little bit of clout and wants to put themselves out there. And some people are making businesses, you know, with these phones. So that’s the backdrop, but it’s a big controversy and youth mental health is something we all need to be thinking about, right? Cause we want the best with what these kids are growing up with. And we don’t want to constrain them, you know, but we also don’t want to like have no guardrails for them. And we want to let them know there’s a balance, right, or something to life. We’ll see. So let’s kick it off here. And I’m going to read a quote from Blaise Pascal, who’s a French philosopher, scientist, mathematician, 17th century. So way back, 1600s, he had a really interesting quote that I’m going to put up here. I’m going to say it twice and it’s going to kick off our conversation. And we’re going to circle back to this youth mental health, social media, phone obsession thing, you know, when it makes sense in the conversation. Here’s the quote. I’m going to read it twice. All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone. All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone. Let’s figure out what he’s saying first. Anybody have an input?
Jarvis Funches (03:55)
I can say it well, from what I heard and what I listened to is basically what he’s saying is that a lot of problems in humanity come from a lot of us not being able to sit and deal with our own problems. So what I can think that this will be going to is that humanity projects a lot of their own personal thoughts out into the world, which reflects in a lot of negativity or fear or damage of people opening up and wanting to beat things in life because of what other people would say or feel. And most of the time, you only saying this because you feel that you are incapable of doing this task that I’m trying to do. So you’re going to kind of like deflect me from doing it. So that’s what I think that this is kind of leading to.
Steve Fouts (04:52)
I got you. Humanity, it’s tough struggling. It’s a struggle to deal with other people. I mean, no question about this. Bully, what’s on your mind? What are you thinking here? I’m going to read the quote again. All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
Bully (05:13)
I think like, it’s like, you can think more peacefully when you by yourself. Like in school, I focus better and do my work better when I’m by myself. And sometimes you need to just sit down by yourself and think things out. That’s why a lot of times people get their mind right when they go to jail or go to rehab or go to the hospital or therapy or whatever. But in real life, it’s hard to sit down by yourself because real life, humanity going every day is going every day is going every day. You don’t have the time to really sit down by yourself to make a decision and you don’t really have time for yourself because everyday life be life and like your responsibility and the world keep the world constantly moving and you don’t want to get left behind because I feel like lot of wars could have been stopped if two people could just sit down and talk like man I’ve seen this all the time in jail, it’s like, if you have a confrontation in front of somebody in the day room, everybody, rah rah rah rah rah rah. But then, when you tell somebody, like, let’s go to the cell by ourselves and we can do it one on one, it’d be a whole different energy, and they end up talking it out and resolving it.
Steve Fouts (06:18)
Okay, so you’re basically picking up on the idea of it’s not necessarily one that you’re alone away from humanity. If you’re with the person that you’re having a conflict with, I mean, that’s pretty close to alone, but that’s a much more productive environment to settle a score, if you want to call it peacefully, is to confront them in front of a group.
Bully (06:41)
Yeah, cause it’s like, it’d be pride, it’d too much pride involved in the public. like, of course, if me and you get into it in the day room, of course you gon’ be like, what’s up, what’s up? I done did that plenty of time, I’m like, I been ice cold, Joe. Let’s go to the back of the shed, we can talk about it more. I pull the cell, I’m like, what’s up now? I’m like, man, now people wanna talk when the pride out the way and the crowd out the way and the audience out the way.
Steve Fouts (06:45)
I got you. I get it, man. I like that a lot. And Tr33 just popped in. This is perfect timing. Tr33, weigh in on this quote. It’s great to see you. All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
Tr33 (07:21)
Yep. I feel like logic and decision making has to be done with a level head, especially decisions that will affect humanity. Decisions that are the powers that be or the leaders of the free world or new world, whatever this world we live in. Since the beginning of time, all the people that were in power always had multiple things to worry about. Keeping the power and sustaining, man two things was keeping the power and sustaining everybody. In the midst of doing that, you gotta figure out how. Moral is coming in line, but then also it has always been a group of beings. Governments, whatever you wanna call it, they’re a group. And I don’t really see those sittings and those meetings being positive or peaceful, that’s probably a lot of yelling, a of arguing, a lot of disagreeing to get to the solutions. That’s the chaotic environment. So y’all trying to argue solutions. Y’all trying to argue y’all way until y’all find solutions, which is not productive because you arguing, mean, you in defensive state, you angry, you probably lashing out your responses. You’re not listening to listening, listen to respond. All these different issues that humans have with communication. So it’s like that being the case, if the people that’s pushing humanity forward are not making decisions in calm settings, they’re not making decisions in calm states of mind, then you probably made that decision out of survival. You probably made a decision out of necessity to please whoever was disagreeing. And now it went from you actually y’all actually discussing solutions for humanity to y’all just putting band-aids over things
Steve Fouts (09:26)
All right, that’s actually one of the best arguments I’ve ever heard against collaboration as a way to lead. Because some people are going to say, no, you want to have multiple voices going back and forth and maybe even a little arguing. And then you end up getting a solution that everybody might not like, but they buy into it. But I’m going to leave that one for now and just get where you’re coming from. If you’re at peace and you’re at your set with yourself, you don’t have those same dynamics going, which are usually negative. So let me, let’s, let me bring it to the topic. All right. These phones and social media, and you see everybody with these things. Do they, do they help hurt to kids being comfortable being alone? How do they affect, you know, a quote like this, Jarvis, what are you thinking?
Jarvis Funches (10:28)
I mean, it’s always pros and cons to everything. the negative side about everybody having phones is the freedom of use. I would say it’s too much freedom of usage, which allows the kids to see things that’s not of the nature that they’re supposed to be of. instance, scrolling down Facebook and Instagram, seeing provocative people or seeing murders or seeing robberies or just seeing kids getting beat up. This produces a fuse in people’s brains because it also does it to me and I’m going to do it. It let goes a fuse in my head to where I feel when I step out, I have to be in a certain time or a certain time frame because of what I’ve seen on social media. So I’m so alert to the things that’s going around me and I should be focusing on goals or ⁓ accomplishing things in my life and living life. Then vice versa. You got kids that’s out here that got businesses that’s actually utilizing their time with social media. Content creators or young entrepreneurs or people that’s just getting their stuff out there. So you can’t really… It’s like, it’s bad, but then it’s good. So I would say the bad thing about it would be the usage of it. I would say like, kind of like cut your kids down on the usage of the internet. Get them outside more, show them more nature, mother nature. Get them more one-on-one time. I know it’s going to be hard the first couple of months because everybody’s so addicted to the phone Like, know, foam is like, yeah, but like you got to think about it. And like to all the listeners that’s listening, the phone and social media is like a drug. So you gotta think about it. And it’s sad to think about it like that, but it releases dopamine to these kids. Like this is what makes them happy sometimes. This is what makes them sad sometimes. So you wanna watch what they see or how they preserve things or how they viewing the things. So like the usage of their phone. And it’s gonna be hard. It’s gonna be hard.
Steve Fouts (12:41)
I got you. So some monitoring and I like, sorry, I interjected here. want to get Bully or Tr33 in here, but I heard you really come a couple different sides. Like it could be used for good, but it can also be to an extreme, you know, with them relying on it for their own happiness and their own emotional state. What are you thinking Bully? What do you got?
Jarvis Funches (12:56)
Yeah. There you go.
Bully (13:12)
I just feel like we coming to the end, the mankind as we know it, with this technology in these phones, it’s like people on the phone with so much AI, it’s really like with all the technology and all this data and all this AI and everything, it’s making the human being less valuable now. It’s really like, it’s helping the world, cause it’s like a Catch-22, cause it’s helping the world, cause people creating things with technology like never before. But it’s also hurt the world from inventing new things and people learning skills and challenging and coming up to it because people spending too much energy on the phone and they’re not outside ⁓ learning the environment, learning the world, getting up basic skills, finding the passion, finding the drive. A lot of times people don’t see that. I done did. I used to on the phone, just scroll to two, three in the morning. People lose their sleep. People can’t really focus on their bed. It become a distraction after a while. So you have to, it got to the point where me, had to just get off social media for a while because it’s like, it was blocking me from things I had to do in the real world because people ain’t learn how to separate social media from real world because one thing you got to know, you got a few real ones out there. Then you want to get made fun of to keep it real and show they real life. But most people post on social media what they want you to see. That’s not the everyday life. They gonna post a pic when they got on good clothes. They got they hat.
They ain’t good. They ain’t posting pictures when they walk around with the punting and the durag on. They ain’t posting the pictures when the rent due and the light bill due and all that. They ain’t posting the pictures of the kids eating hot dogs and stuff like that. But they go out the root church crisp or go out somewhere, RPM somewhere expensive or something. They post that. So the internet rules all the façade. Anybody can be anything they want to be. And it causes a lot of problems. People could throw rocks at you of their hand. People have fake pages and they say stuff to people nor they wouldn’t say this to them in real life. So it’s like a whole nother world and you gotta learn to separate the two. But sometimes people spend so much time on the phone, they get adapted to thinking that’s reality when it’s further from the truth.
Steve Fouts (15:14)
So yeah, it’s going to mess with your reality. I’m glad you said about how we talk to people completely different on a post than we would if they were sitting next to us. We wouldn’t say half the things that we say online. And there’s actually some brain science behind that. I got to share that someday. But Tr33, weigh in there with this. And I’m going to read our quote again, see if you can maybe even try to bring it back to the quote with this question of social media. All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
Tr33 (15:50)
To add that to the AI slash social media talking point, attention span. Your ability to be with yourself, to go within, to be alone in a quiet space, it acquires your attention span to be peak. Like you need to be, because it’s gonna be, if you don’t have a high attention span, being alone is gonna come off boring. It’s unfulfilling. Social media has created basically a nonstop break of attention. It’s nonstop and it’s so fast now that it, well we didn’t realize, well maybe scientists knew this ahead of time, but what I guess the masters didn’t know that is that the more you have access, I guess, to seeing things, the lower your attention span gets because you see one thing, you scroll to the next. You see one thing, you scroll to the next. You see one thing, you scroll to the next. And now it’s to the point where if you don’t like it, you can just scroll. There’s no, there’s no, you don’t, And that’s what, and that was even before the internet, that was even with TV. If you didn’t like what was on TV, you just click to the next channel. You don’t have to sit there and watch anything, you can click. So I feel like technology has been slowly stripping humanity of its attention span.
Steve Fouts (17:18)
And making it harder to be alone.
Tr33 (17:21)
Yeah, they’re making it harder to be alone because we’re always sensing. We always need some sense of, we feel now that we always need a sense of connection because they’ve allowed us to be so connected through the Internet. Phones. So since we have cell phones now and you can just easily call somebody when back in the day you had to write a letter, maybe go ride a horse three days just to go see your friend. It’s not like that no more. You could just text your friend right now and you can communicate with somebody that’s not even near you. So that quicker access to communication, even though it’s like separating us, because people have talked more through text than they would in person. But even though it’s like destroying us, it’s also still keeping us connected. But it’s like that advancement and connection is stripping people of their power to be alone or to want to even be alone. And then like, also too, AI is, just jump into AI real quick, AI is basically eliminating the need for humanity itself. Like, what do I need an actor for if I could just create a whole AI movie? What do I need this for if I could just have a, what do I need an assistant for if I can just have AI do it? Like, you’re gonna eventually, they’re gonna try to eventually replace all human need for actual human beings with created. They’re trying to make AI singers now. I’m not going to go buy an album of an AI singer and then go to the concert and it’s a hologram on stage. But there are going to be people that are going to be paying to see a hologram before they pay to see a flesh and blood artist performing.
Steve Fouts (19:02)
I’m gonna make a promise to you, which is AI is gonna be the next week. We’re gonna talk about AI and get a quote for AI too. Cause that’s another layer to this. Social media is like a dinosaur compared to what AI is doing and, you know, affecting the way we interact with each other, right? You opened up so many cans of worms Tr33 in a good way because the counterclaim to the quote, all of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone. The counterclaim is what to this? Is all connection bad? Like don’t we need to be connected and Tr33 already brought up that we’re connected, but we’re not really connected. Being able to text someone is being connected, but it’s not like looking at them face to face. So there’s that layer as well, but just go with the word connected first. Are we, is connection bad or what type of connection is good? And I’m trying to start off the counterclaim here.
Jarvis Funches (20:22)
My counter clean to this is, I mean… I feel like phone connection, like Tr33 said, it’s killing humanity because at this point, we don’t even really take the time out to even meet people or greet people or find out who they is personally. And I feel like that’s bad. It’s going to lead to being bad because the way AI got it, you can make your best friend on the phone. You ain’t got to do nothing. It’s making it too easy. I don’t know. I feel like once you lose that type of connection to actually connect with a human to human, I don’t know. I think the world’s going to be kind of messed up, man. I think that’s going to kill. I don’t know. I don’t know.
Steve Fouts (21:07)
If everybody’s off alone, right? Is that a good thing? You know, like you’re saying Jarvis, and now I’m realizing the AI, what’s crazy is now you’re not even really alone. You can have a conversation with AI, right? You can be like, I don’t want to deal with someone’s bad breath. You know, like, like just.
Jarvis Funches (21:20)
because you can feel the hurt. You can feel whatever you want. You can create whatever you want. ChatGPT has replaced school. Literally. Replace school. ChatGPT. I can ask ChatGPT anything and it will tell me. Like literally. The internet is really breaking. Like you don’t have to work for anything. Like you don’t have to do anything for like the time that y’all used to take back in the days to look through the dictionaries and see what things actually meant. I took the time, the patience to actually learn. We don’t have to do that. I can ask Siri everything and it will tell me everything. Guess what? I can forget it because guess what? I can come right back to Siri and ask Siri again. And it’s like, you not learning because like it’s not being stored in your brain because you gonna learn it and then you gonna forget it because like it’s being given to you so easy.
Steve Fouts (22:19)
This is also, we’re gonna pick that one back up when we do the AI one. I mean, just remember we’re gonna go there again, Jarvis.
Bully (22:31)
Yeah, cause it was like, one thing I just wanted to add before y’all was done, cause it was scary what these phones know. Like, if you do a routine every day, your phone automatically know it. Like, if you go to work and go home every day for a week, Monday, when you finna leave your job, it’s gonna say 24 minutes to home. It’s like it’s track you in, you don’t even access it to. That’s scary, man.
Steve Fouts (22:48)
Yeah. But they’re becoming kind of our R2-D2s to take it way back to Star Wars. Yeah.
Tr33 (22:57)
I was gonna say too, I was piggybacking off Jarvis. So boom, one AI, all AI does is regurgitate things that humans have already written down. So, cause I asked ChatGPT, I almost broke my hands. I said, how can I even trust you if you just regurgitating information from my government that lies to humanity? And he said, you’re right, you can’t trust me. your own research. But yeah, outside of this, the AI situation and how it’s making people less willing to do and how people can also be blinded by thinking like, yeah, this is going to give me all the answers. If your government is the ones that are controlling it and they mislead you all the time. You can’t trust everything that comes with You have to do your own research and go back to the basics of the good old library where there’s books at, where there’s not.
Jarvis Funches (23:59)
Yeah, but look though, but look, you see what I’m saying though, right? How we would have to go back, right? See, many people, has the brain cells that you have to even challenge chat gpt That’s the thing right there. Nobody’s gonna really think the challenge is because like you said, the government has already so fairly programmed people to what they think.
Steve Fouts (24:14)
Yeah.
Jarvis Funches (24:23)
Whatever they hear or come from off of the internet that is certified by the government, it is true. So like you said, ChatGPT told you do your own research. Nobody’s really going to challenge ChatGPT like that. So now, like I was saying, it’s killing the connection. What connection am I talking about? The connection to actually want to learn what you’re searching, to actually discover, to actually go through and learn. Do you ever wonder everything that’s hard for you to learn, you remember it like it’s easy and everything is easy for you to learn. You forget it. That’s what I’m saying. It takes the connection away from us literally. If I knew that you had more wisdom than me, Tr33, I would usually come to you back in the day and ask you for wisdom. But now if I think ChatGPT is smarter than you, it’s killing my human connection because guess what? I don’t feel the need to come to you anymore because I feel that it’s something smarter than you, which is… ain’t nothing but internet and electricity. So it’s killing my passion to even want to communicate or connect with you. You see what I’m saying?
Steve Fouts (25:38)
Hold that thought, hold that thought. I’m gonna read this quote again, because we’re getting somewhere with this. All of humanity’s problems stem from man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone. Pascal is saying, we gotta know how to be alone. Jarvis, you just shared that when we’re alone, if we got AI, that’s gonna send us off the deep end. We’re gonna start trusting that over our friends and people that we know have wisdom. So I think that that’s the embodiment of a counterclaim right there, where being alone is overrated. It’s dangerous in today’s world. Cause you have access to all this other stuff.
Tr33 (26:28)
Okay.
Jarvis Funches (26:29)
Exactly. Just like, let me throw one example and then I’m done. Just like if any one of you guys knew anything about real estate, Let’s just say hypothetically real estate because it’s hot right now. If any one of you guys was experts on real estate, right? And I knew that instead of coming to you and doing all the trouble of having to call you, chase you, get with you and all of that, doing human connection, I would rather search it up and get it from the internet, which is really what. I knew somebody that can really help me in person, that can break it down to me in real life timing. But guess what? I was too lazy to have that human connection. And guess what I did? I chose the lazy way out, which is going to the internet. That killed human connection to me. That’s what I just think personally.
Tr33 (27:24)
It go even further. It’s like when we talking on, when you texting somebody, it’s automated text responses now. It’s auto correct, spell correct. you typing something in and spell it for you. It’s emojis. You don’t even gotta say a word, you send an emoji now. I don’t have to know how to spell something, I can just send an emoji that represented. So it’s like, on multiple levels, technology low key is like regressing us as a race because for instance, like kids in high school, that’s half, you know, have trouble spelling and reading. I don’t got to worry about knowing how to spell when I’m texting because the phone going to correct it for me.
Jarvis Funches (28:14)
Exactly, exactly. I don’t have to worry about learning because I can look under the desk and use my phone and learn exactly what I’m trying to learn in real time. And even better yet, we’d be in the same house. You downstairs, I’m upstairs. Instead of me coming downstairs to talk to you, I would text you or call you. Come on gang, that’s killing the human connection. We in the same house. Instead of me coming downstairs to verbally have a conversation with you, I would text you. I would be sitting in the opposite room for you and before me getting up I would literally text you before I get up and come in the opposite room from you. That kills human connection. I don’t feel the need to connect with you. I connect with you through my phone, through my device.
Tr33 (28:56)
No, I just hope I just thought of this, humanity’s desire for, what’s the word I’m looking for? Humanity’s desire for convenience will strip us of our humanity.
Steve Fouts (29:15)
That’s technology. To me, that’s technology right there. Because technology is always trying to make things more efficient and convenient for us. That’s crazy.
Tr33 (29:25)
Yeah, it’s like, it’s like, it’d be more convenient if you, instead of having to walk to go talk to somebody, what if you could just call where you are? But that’s making human safety. Now to the point where people won’t even walk down the stairs in their own house to go talk to somebody.
Jarvis Funches (29:33)
It’s more convenient. Man, fool.
Bully (29:37)
I get into it with these people all the time.
Steve Fouts (29:37)
Bully, Bully, come in here!
Bully (29:43)
So, because I be busy through the day, I’m working three jobs, I’m going to school, I’m shooting movies, I’m filming, and people be wanting to text and they don’t respond to their texts or let it be in their feed. I be telling people, call me. First of all, I’m driving a lot, I can’t really be texting. I’m working 24 hours a I might not see a text and I get into, especially my baby mama, she want to text 300 times a day and she get mad, you can’t respond to my text. But when you at home, you respond.
Tr33 (29:44)
You say what?
Bully (30:06)
When I’m at home, I’m chilling, I got my phone in my hand. If I’m up and running through the day, I can’t be texting people all day. And I just came home maybe nine at night, then I get in the house like, damn, I missed this text, missed this text, missed this text. And I try to text people, don’t call you no more, everybody wanna text. Especially when they asking you for something, people don’t even have the audacity to actually face to face with me. And the man they wanna shoot a text and ask you, can they get it? That’s it, you can’t even approach me about it.
Steve Fouts (30:21)
Yeah. All right, we have diagnosed the threat of technology. you talk about this, I mean, we started with this quote, all of humanity’s problems stem from a man’s inability to sit quietly in a room alone. And we’re pointing out that in today’s world, sitting in a room alone and having a phone, which is your connection to the entire world and this convenience that you think is making things better for you, it is actually separating you from people. You’re not only alone and you’re just, not with people. You’re not even reaching out and you’re losing a connection. I mean, we’ve been living in the counterclaim to this. I feel like I need to throw a life raft to this Pascal. you know, so someone reassures me that being alone, is still something good for us, but how do we do it? I guess I’m getting to an essential question I wanna ask. Like, what is being alone mean? Cause if you’re gonna tell me you’re gonna have your phone with you, I’m not convinced that’s alone. So someone define alone that you really think makes this quote true.
Tr33 (31:53)
Alone to me is separation from all things outside of self.
Jarvis Funches (32:00)
And that’s a B.
Steve Fouts (32:00)
Including phones, people, dogs, cats.
Tr33 (32:02)
Bones, even materials, like.
Jarvis Funches (32:05)
Everything. Anything that’s not within the temple you have to you have to learn how to disconnect from it God said you shall have no idols But me you should not worship nobody but me and that would be the thing with people bro I don’t even know bro. People they be right next to you for like people be couples even couples gang They’ll be with each other. I like they irritated if even being with each other should it and be more comfortable with being on a phone Like, it just be losing me again, I don’t know if-
Steve Fouts (32:40)
Good. Yeah.
Tr33 (32:42)
Yeah, so basically separation from all things other than self and all living things. So as long as nothing is living around you, is consciousness. Separation from all consciousness other than self.
Steve Fouts (32:59)
You’re talking about meditating.
Tr33 (33:02)
Almost in a sense. Yeah, I feel like that’s just a true aloneness meditating. Yeah, but like
Steve Fouts (33:06)
That’s hard to do, right? Like in certain environments, you almost have to go to a retreat.
Tr33 (33:13)
And I think a lot of, if I’m not mistaken, a lot of the worlds, a lot of things that actually move the world forward, far as invention wise, was discovered by somebody who was alone. Thank you.
Steve Fouts (33:28)
That’s what this Pascal, he’s the one who came up with the quote. Think of how much time he spent alone. You can’t figure out theories and these hidden logic, this hidden logic behind nature unless you’re alone. Like Newton, when he wondered why the apple fell from the Tr33 and discovered gravity, he wasn’t at like a wedding party. You know, he was just sitting there. I’m, I’m taking up on that as well.
Tr33 (33:56)
Right. Yeah, like as long as you’re around other consciousness, it’s somehow going to draw your consciousness away. Because if it’s three people sitting in the room and it’s quiet, Maybe two of them are truly thinking of things. The other person is thinking why they so quiet? What are they thinking about? Should I still be quiet? What should I be thinking about? Now it becomes, it throws off your aloneness.
Steve Fouts (34:30)
There you go, it’s social. ends up being, yeah, yeah. That’s, well, let me wrap this up with what I think is an observation. If you think of Pascal as being one of these scientists, and he is, philosopher, mathematician, guys like him are developing this AI, okay? And I don’t know exactly how they’re developing it, but my guess is that they got some alone time. And it’s crazy to me to think that the people who got the alone time, who are developing these technologies are giving us these technologies and then making it impossible for us to not be alone. I mean, if what we’re saying is true, don’t know if that made sense that I confused myself.
Tr33 (35:19)
Yeah, Yeah, I can bet the creators of a lot of things that are draining mankind. I can bet the creators don’t use it to their detriment like we are. It’s like I made this thing. I already know what is capable of doing negative to me, so I’m not gonna, but the people that are buying it from me, they don’t know. I’m not gonna tell them, because it’s all part of a bigger scheme.
Steve Fouts (35:39)
Yeah.
Tr33 (35:44)
That was a question when I do as a content creator and I said I’m going to shift my content because I don’t want to be part of the distraction. I don’t want to be somebody that you just see scroll, even though I’m already not. I still want to go a little bit harder than I have been going. But I myself all the time. Like, man, OK, I do I still do I do community work. No, I still do the mentoring like I did when I first met Jarvis. I still do a lot of that stuff.
Steve Fouts (35:44)
Good luck fellas! There you go. Yeah. That’s your
Tr33 (36:12)
But outside of that, my entertainment is solely kind of strictly comedy. I’ve only ever really stepped out of the comedy lens a few times on the aspect of, well no, when I spoke about like Palestine and the Charlie Kirk situation, wasn’t, I made no form of that comedic. I just spoke how I felt about the situations. But I haven’t really created like truly thought provoking humor yet.
I just do surface level humor, know, just regular everyday humor. But I feel like sometimes that that’s part of the distraction. Just so that if somebody to scroll past to get a ha ha ha, cause I look at it like it’s consumers and it’s creators. Society is full of way more consumers than creators. So you need to be mindful of what you are giving people to digest, to consume from you. Because if you’re not aware of it, you could be right along with all the other puppets. Just distracting humanity and keeping them docile and not really thinking about because I don’t want somebody like if you follow me I don’t want that you just sit around all day looking at my page like I don’t want I don’t want anybody to be doing that you should be doing something with your life like you should just be
Steve Fouts (37:28)
I’m glad you came from the creator’s perspective because there definitely is value for things like social media and every consumer having a phone so they can see how funny Tr33 is. mean, there’s some value in that as well. So I’m glad we did some justice to that. But fellas, look, I mean, this was good. and I, I don’t know if anyone has a question in the back of their mind from this conversation you want to kind of lead the listeners with. I mean, mine, it’s probably, well, you know what? I’ll wait on mine. Anybody have one that’s just something that you think is thought provoking that came out of this.
Tr33 (38:18)
I got a question for the listeners. When was the last time you were alone? And what is something you have solved while being alone?
Steve Fouts (38:29)
Okay.
Bully (38:31)
I was going to pretty much say the same thing to him. How much active time in a day do we really spend alone? I’m not talking about sleeping and laying down. I’m talking about through the active day, how much time do we spend alone a day?
Steve Fouts (38:32)
Good. Yeah, get conscious of that.
Jarvis Funches (38:47)
You know man, only cause I asked him when was last time you went three months without a phone? Man, I went three months without a phone so like, me personally, I don’t care for phones to be honest. Like I’m a loner person to be honest, to be honest. Like I
Steve Fouts (38:54)
Wait a minute. That just happened, didn’t it? I mean, did you– what kind of problem did you solve, Jarvis? I’m dead serious.
Bully (38:54)
Ha ha ha ha
Jarvis Funches (39:14)
I’d rather go play basketball or have physical contact. I feel like that’s kind of more better for me because I don’t know. Phones is just a big distraction for me, period. I’m one of the people that I would find this device convenient for me and I’m just being honest. So when I don’t have them, I take full advantage of not having it, to be honest.
Steve Fouts (39:31)
Look!
Tr33 (39:33)
Okay.
Steve Fouts (39:34)
Look, hey, Pascal, thank you for throwing him a life raft for his quote. I mean, honestly, like we’re all good. You’re not being judged. fellas, thank you. This was a great conversation. I hope you liked this topic thing. I think it makes it, it adds a layer to it that I think that it makes it more interesting. I don’t know. You can tell me what you think. Take care everybody. We’ll see you next week.